Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Ram Promaster Chassis Winnebago Trend 23D and Dynamax Rev 24TB

There are 2 RVs that I'm interested in but can't see because they aren't local. They are both on the Ram Promaster Chassis. I wonder if the reason this isn't carried locally is because it might be under powered for the mountains?

CCC:
Trend about 1137 lbs (unit advertised in Texas) with a slide and Rev 989 lb without. Advantage - Trend.
Got these weights and measures from a Rev 24TB owner:
"The table top inserted between TB is 20" high and the mattress is 30". The width (depth) of the widest storage compartment is 29 1/2". The CCC on the door says 449 Kg (989 lbs). This is with the tanks empty. The fresh water full is 94 Kg (207 lbs) and the waste tanks full is 275 Kg (606) according to the sticker. With all tanks full you are getting close to CCC."

Twin bed floorplan:
The Winnebago Trend has our preferred floor plan of center aisle twins with a rear bath. We like this because in most models one bed can be extended to almost a full while still leaving an aisle. Makes sleeping with dogs that kick out and try to take over the bed easier. But in the Trend it does not extend like this. However we could mount one of the tables between the beds down near the feet and the dog could sleep between us there. But then that means we have to unmount it in the morning. Definitely a pain and not realistic with my bad back. But there is no advantage to the Rev in this area also because the beds there are also fixed and would need a table mounted between them to bridge the gap. Advantage - neither.

Size of loveseat:
The Rev loveseat is 58" so more sofa sized. Trend loveseat is 42" wide. Really love that it does not have a slide. But it does not have additional ccc over the Trend for not having the slide. But we still like not having a slide for the simplicity and additional noise and temp. insulation. Advantage - Rev.

Not having a slide:
REV!!! Hard to say if the Trend drivers chair will lean back properly with a slide behind it. This is something we have to check on. Also riding on the loveseat on a non-slide is likely to feel more sturdy and secure. Advantage - Rev.

Sink size:
Rev has a nice big rectangular sink. Last years model had a double bowl sink, nice size and rectangular. Advantage Rev and then further advantage Rev 2017 for double bowl.

Table deployed full time:
While the Rev allows this the table is oddly positioned. It is not centered on the loveseat but rather toward the front of the cab. I do not know if this cuts off access to the front seats. It looks like it might. The Trend does not allow this as the loveseat covers the table hole. Maybe one can be added in the desired spot to either unit? Advantage - neither but maybe to the Rev if you can still access the front seats around the deployed table.

Quality control:
This is one we can't judge because we can't see them. The Rev had the general manager on the Dynamax Forest River forum and he responds and answers questions. In my mind this is huge if you end up with a lemon or manufacturing mess. Winnebago has all the standardized diagrams, parts list etc that we are used to on our current Winnebago that make trouble shooting and fixing things ourselves easier. Advantage: Hard to say. Really didn't expect such good support from Dynamax manager so that has me tilting that way.

In the end ccc may win the day. Need to find an owner to get the info off the door or get a dealer to send photos of the label.

Key metrics:
Trend 23D - 24' 4", 29 fresh, 40 black 35 grey, ccc about 1137, bed size 32"x75" and 32"x80"
Rev 24TB - 24' 8", 25 fresh, 35 black, 38 grey, ccc about 989, bed size 32"x74"

In terms of how we use our current RV we fill the grey first from the shower but it is only 28G, then the black which includes kitchen is 28. The third tank with is the lavatory sink is 17G and we have never filled it but we do start washing dishes in that sink when the black tank is getting full. Our fresh water capacity is 55G but we find fresh water is easy to find more so than dump stations so the Rev and Trend tank sizes seem great to us.

Wish one of them allowed large item storage over the drivers area. We don't seem to have storage for lawn chairs and dog pen in either so would have to go with a hitch cargo carrier. The Thor Citation had the over cab area for storage but even less ccc at 920 lbs....

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